Comments on: The Three Kingdom’s Dilemma http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/ Play the funnest Magic: The Gathering draft format ever! Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:15:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: ArtsyWumpus http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-409 ArtsyWumpus Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:31:36 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-409 I have run into the classic "$50+ brick wall" problem myself. Unfortunately all the expensive cards are really good. The box always wants more Wraths/Tutors/"Interesting" Spells. My own cube/big box is attempting to contain one each named, including promos, and un-sets. Its currently at -57, mostly P3K and power nine. I was lucky enough to pick up some cards back when they were cheap. I got my Bazaar at $17, Workshop at $40 and Recruiter at $1.50. Someday I hope to add another set of cards to the box, the Astral cards. I've worked out how to make them work in paper, but I have yet to figure out a way to proxy them well. Ante cards just say "Exile a card." Oddly enough, My box has only been drafted once or twice. Usually we play a sort of hybrid version of Mental Magic with anything as a Utopia Land, and cards being what they are actually printed. Tutoring also only nets you a "deck sized" pile of cards or the first card that meets the criteria.It tries to eliminate color screw and mana screw. As with most formats this way has its problems, turn 5 Bringers/etc come to mind. Since the Utopias are snowlands the Rimefeather Owl is a beating. I have run into the classic “$50+ brick wall” problem myself. Unfortunately all the expensive cards are really good. The box always wants more Wraths/Tutors/”Interesting” Spells.

My own cube/big box is attempting to contain one each named, including promos, and un-sets.
Its currently at -57, mostly P3K and power nine. I was lucky enough to pick up some cards back when they were cheap. I got my Bazaar at $17, Workshop at $40 and Recruiter at $1.50. Someday I hope to add another set of cards to the box, the Astral cards. I’ve worked out how to make them work in paper, but I have yet to figure out a way to proxy them well. Ante cards just say “Exile a card.”

Oddly enough, My box has only been drafted once or twice. Usually we play a sort of hybrid version of Mental Magic with anything as a Utopia Land, and cards being what they are actually printed. Tutoring also only nets you a “deck sized” pile of cards or the first card that meets the criteria.It tries to eliminate color screw and mana screw.

As with most formats this way has its problems, turn 5 Bringers/etc come to mind. Since the Utopias are snowlands the Rimefeather Owl is a beating.

]]> By: Electrohead http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Electrohead Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:34:15 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-57 Good article. I play in a cube that uses many of the Three Kingdom cards. They are pretty fun, none of them seem too broken. I know from experience that Gifts Given is way waaaay to broken in the cube. Its too powerful for its cost and the fact that its an instant just makes it backbreaking and completely kills the fun of the game IMO. I would caution players that are interested in the card to at least proxy it for awhile and see for yourself before spending 50 bucks for a completely broken card. Good article. I play in a cube that uses many of the Three Kingdom cards. They are pretty fun, none of them seem too broken.

I know from experience that Gifts Given is way waaaay to broken in the cube. Its too powerful for its cost and the fact that its an instant just makes it backbreaking and completely kills the fun of the game IMO. I would caution players that are interested in the card to at least proxy it for awhile and see for yourself before spending 50 bucks for a completely broken card.

]]> By: Kroelai http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Kroelai Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:58:25 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-56 Hey, Great post! It helped me finding some better red card. Thanks Hey,

Great post!
It helped me finding some better red card.

Thanks

]]> By: Shi.ar http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Shi.ar Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:10:09 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-54 Hey Reubs, nice piece! Very recognisable dilemma, I'm struggling with it myself, because I feel I must have cards from every corner of the magic universe in my Cube. All sets, FNM, DCI, judge, JSS, textless, EA, etc. I agree Kontramagija wholehartedly however as I just don't feel that exact reprints are worth the effort. Cards that do different things are fair game. My Cube includes Lu Xun and Overwhelming Forces. On a different note: on the forums there's been talk of dropping Gifts Given from Cubes, since it's clearly too strong, leaning on unfun... Hey Reubs, nice piece!
Very recognisable dilemma, I’m struggling with it myself, because I feel I must have cards from every corner of the magic universe in my Cube. All sets, FNM, DCI, judge, JSS, textless, EA, etc.
I agree Kontramagija wholehartedly however as I just don’t feel that exact reprints are worth the effort. Cards that do different things are fair game. My Cube includes Lu Xun and Overwhelming Forces.
On a different note: on the forums there’s been talk of dropping Gifts Given from Cubes, since it’s clearly too strong, leaning on unfun…

]]> By: argus http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-53 argus Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:41:42 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-53 we really dig Rare-B-Gone in the cube as a powerful effect in a color that needs one. i'd also like to include Gifts Given in my cube... not too hot on the horsemanship creatures, it is a bit unfair since most of them blue and practically unblockable. blue doesn't need that good creatures we really dig Rare-B-Gone in the cube as a powerful effect in a color that needs one.

i’d also like to include Gifts Given in my cube…

not too hot on the horsemanship creatures, it is a bit unfair since most of them blue and practically unblockable. blue doesn’t need that good creatures

]]> By: Kontramagija http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Kontramagija Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:26:36 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-52 Heya. I have a cube that has lets say arround 600 cards and I had some of the cards u mentioned in my cube. The main problem is the unglued ones simply kill the fun. I remember once playing vs a friend who had everything on board and i just played rare b gone---> killed all his dudes half of his lands and discarded some cards. The cards are way to sick for their mana cost and my opinion is they should never be included in the cube. As for the 3 kingdom cards its up to the ppl. If u want a exact copy of a card but with a different name go ahead. Nice article, cheers :) Heya.
I have a cube that has lets say arround 600 cards and I had some of the cards u mentioned in my cube.
The main problem is the unglued ones simply kill the fun. I remember once playing vs a friend who had everything on board and i just played rare b gone—> killed all his dudes half of his lands and discarded some cards.
The cards are way to sick for their mana cost and my opinion is they should never be included in the cube.

As for the 3 kingdom cards its up to the ppl. If u want a exact copy of a card but with a different name go ahead.

Nice article,
cheers
:)

]]> By: Sleazor http://www.cubedrafting.com/2009/03/31/three_kingdoms_dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Sleazor Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:43:41 +0000 http://www.cubedrafting.com/?p=131#comment-51 Don't forget Imperial Seal! Don’t forget Imperial Seal!

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